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ambassador and close friend simply told the truth as she was permitted to tell it, what the cia gave her to say and no more. for that he charges susan rice, in the words of the new york post, being fried. political fight fans on the tabloids relish this extreme combat what should be a good person's judgment? that's my question tonight. is susan rice now a surrogate for the president, someone to take the punishment when others above her pay grade should be answering the questions, or is she accountable for going on national television knowing she can't tell the whole truth because it's classified? let's begin with senator susan collins, republican of maine. i guess it's the toughest question in the world, senator, and that is, do you believe that susan rice, the u.n. ambassador, knowingly covered up a breach of national security? >> well, let me say this, chris, our purpose is to understand the security failure in benghazi. what the administration told the american public about it. and how we can learn lessons to keep our personnel safer in the future. so that's my interest and goal i
ambassador and close friend simply told the truth as she was permitted to tell it, what the cia gave her to say and no more. for that he charges susan rice, in the words of the new york post, being fried. political fight fans on the tabloids relish this extreme combat what should be a good person's judgment? that's my question tonight. is susan rice now a surrogate for the president, someone to take the punishment when others above her pay grade should be answering the questions, or is she...
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to speak for a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morell, who is a career agency analyst. michael morell has stepped in as acting director again. i think that's from the standpoint of the cia and the stability of u.s. intelligence efforts the most positive thing you could say. morell is a career guy. he's trusted by the white house. he was trusted by petraeus, and so you have a smoother transition than you sometimes do in these situations. >> let me get back to richard engel about this. you know, you know these guys. you know as a military guy covering our fights overseas, the combat operations in iraq especially, this man was almost at the general mcarthur level just a few years ago. people were talking about him being the republican candidate for the presidency in the current election cycle. this is a big fall. this is a big fall down from where he was in our national estima estimate. >> it's almost the fall of an american hero. this last decade didn't create very many heros in the pub
to speak for a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morell, who is a career agency analyst. michael morell has stepped in as acting director again. i think that's from the standpoint of the cia and the stability of u.s. intelligence efforts the most positive thing you could say. morell is a career guy. he's trusted by the white house. he was trusted by petraeus, and so you have a smoother...
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. >>> plus spy fall, what we're learning about the affair that brought down the cia chief and perhaps derailed the promoths of the top general. besides complaining about how president obama won re-election by giving away gifts to minorities and young voters, wonder what mitt romney has been doing since the election? david letterman has an idea. >> today mitt romney drew a picture of the house of representatives chamber and gave a state of the union address in front of it. >> and the fourth new entitlement, obama care, we'd repeal that one. >> we have a few more of those sugar plums in the "sideshow." >>> plet me finish with a book about when we had a hero for a president. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> time to bust another 2012 lest myth. the idea took hold that african-americans would not be as fired up to vote as they were four years ago. but here is what the nbc news political desk found in looking at the exit polls. in the states with significant black populations the black vote increased in five states, michigan, mississippi, missouri, ohio, and new jersey. it he
. >>> plus spy fall, what we're learning about the affair that brought down the cia chief and perhaps derailed the promoths of the top general. besides complaining about how president obama won re-election by giving away gifts to minorities and young voters, wonder what mitt romney has been doing since the election? david letterman has an idea. >> today mitt romney drew a picture of the house of representatives chamber and gave a state of the union address in front of it....
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why didn't he as cia director go to the president, the public ought to know what happened. why didn't he do that? >> the intelligence community put forward the assessments that gave us a clear assessment and debunked the idea there was a protest. you can accuse them of being too slow to do that and we have asked them exactly these questions why it took so lock to get to the trooet and get a more ak trat picture. they need to put this forward to us in a way that doesn't divulge classified information. but i don't think there's any evidence, i certainly haven't seen any evidence, that general petraeus or any of the other intelligence community were trying to mislead anyone. they are professional. they were trying to do their job and we can fault them for getting the initial assessment wrong, but i don't think we can ascribe any kind of malice or intent to deceive. >> when your pants are on fire, someone should tell you your pants are on fire. you shunt have to ask are my pants on fire. that's my view. i'm going to try to get more information. congressman adam schiff from your
why didn't he as cia director go to the president, the public ought to know what happened. why didn't he do that? >> the intelligence community put forward the assessments that gave us a clear assessment and debunked the idea there was a protest. you can accuse them of being too slow to do that and we have asked them exactly these questions why it took so lock to get to the trooet and get a more ak trat picture. they need to put this forward to us in a way that doesn't divulge classified...
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. >>> plus spy fall, what we're learning about the affair that brought down the cia chief and perhaps derailed the promotion of the top general. and has been tabloid fodder now for almost a week. >>> and besides complaining about how president obama won re-election by giving away gifts to minorities and young voters, ever wonder what mitt romney has done -- actually been doing since the election? well, david letterman has an idea. >> today mitt romney drew a picture of the house of representatives chamber and gave a state of the union address in front of it. >> and the fourth new entitlement, obama care, we repeal that one. >> message from pretend president romney. >> got a few more of those sugar plums in the side shows. let me finish way book about when we hay hero for a president. this is "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, are those my jeans? [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't. multigrain cheerios >>> time to bust another 2012 election myth. the i
. >>> plus spy fall, what we're learning about the affair that brought down the cia chief and perhaps derailed the promotion of the top general. and has been tabloid fodder now for almost a week. >>> and besides complaining about how president obama won re-election by giving away gifts to minorities and young voters, ever wonder what mitt romney has done -- actually been doing since the election? well, david letterman has an idea. >> today mitt romney drew a picture of...
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the other one until recently head of the cia. this aspect to it, it's just -- well, i don't know what to say. i'm not used to covering these kinds of stories and woond be if these weren't the people involved. your thoughts about how -- fill it in as the rorner what i'm missing here. >> you did a very good job of pulling that together. i commend you. you really got the high points. it's fascinating this big scandal affecting two commanders, bringing down petraeus, affecting general john allen, started really with a social scene in tampa. jill kelley is a socialite there. sort of an ad hoc ambassador of sorts, a social ambassador to the military base there. she's known for throwing lavish parties, cigars, champagne, string quartets and socializes with these people. she goes to an fbi agent she knows, again very politically well-connected in tampa, and says in june i'm getting these strange e-mails. what do i do? this agent takes them to the tampa office of the fbi and says investigate. now, you know, the fbi doesn't investigate all
the other one until recently head of the cia. this aspect to it, it's just -- well, i don't know what to say. i'm not used to covering these kinds of stories and woond be if these weren't the people involved. your thoughts about how -- fill it in as the rorner what i'm missing here. >> you did a very good job of pulling that together. i commend you. you really got the high points. it's fascinating this big scandal affecting two commanders, bringing down petraeus, affecting general john...
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senator mccain knows full well there was cia engagement not just with these talking points but with the actual operation around the ambassador in benghazi. everyone knows what the real story is behind here in terms of the operation, in terms of susan rice's independence, and if you want to take a sunday show talking points performance as the measure of a secretary of state, you're on very thin ground in terms of how anyone for any position could get nominated in the future. >> let me follow this thinking here. who is going to take the bullet for what looked to be the failure to protect chris stevens? who is going to take the bullet for what looks to be a misrepresentation in real time as to what happened? who is going to pay the price? >> certainly -- >> first of all, jay go first. >> i think certainly republicans want it to be susan rice. they're essentially calling for her scalp. and you had white house press secretary jay carney out there at the same time going even farther than rice was and talking about how this was all just due to a protest and not really -- not having much to do
senator mccain knows full well there was cia engagement not just with these talking points but with the actual operation around the ambassador in benghazi. everyone knows what the real story is behind here in terms of the operation, in terms of susan rice's independence, and if you want to take a sunday show talking points performance as the measure of a secretary of state, you're on very thin ground in terms of how anyone for any position could get nominated in the future. >> let me...
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under the new system the director of the cia reports to clapper. clapper is his boss, and they thought that clapper should know. he controls the security clearances. let him make the decision about whether it was proper to keep david petraeus on the job. obviously clapper felt it wasn't and told petraeus he ought to resign. >> i guess it's one of those cases once people know about it, the catch-22 is you have to do something about it or else you're part of the cover-up. maybe that's the way they look at it. pete williams, as always, thank you, sir. >> that's right. >> do you have a thought? >> i was going to say one other thing, by certainly mid to late october petraeus knows he's under investigation. he knows that the fbi knows about this. but he doesn't decide to go and tell the white house and offer to resign until clapper tells him to do so. >> more information. thank you so much, pete, for that reporting. more on the politics of the petraeus scandal, if you will. eugene robinson is an associate editor and columnist for "the washington post." a
under the new system the director of the cia reports to clapper. clapper is his boss, and they thought that clapper should know. he controls the security clearances. let him make the decision about whether it was proper to keep david petraeus on the job. obviously clapper felt it wasn't and told petraeus he ought to resign. >> i guess it's one of those cases once people know about it, the catch-22 is you have to do something about it or else you're part of the cover-up. maybe that's the...
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threats against the united states was rising and security was -- >> and the answer could be we had cia agents in that area -- >> absolutely. >> that needed to be protected. ambassador susan rice met with her strongest critics on capitol hill today to answer questions about benghazi and the verdict was decidedly negative from her adversaries. they said the meeting left them, here is the word, troubled. let's watch. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get concerning evidence that was overwhelming leading up to the attack on our consulate. >> i'm more disturbed now than i was before. if you don't know what happened, just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations, and you can say i don't want to give bad information. >> i'm more troubled today because it's certainly clear from the beginning that we knew that those with ties to al qaeda were involved in the attack on the embassy. >> well, then we go back to michael here. what i'm hearing today is ambassador rice when she went on "meet the press" in mid-
threats against the united states was rising and security was -- >> and the answer could be we had cia agents in that area -- >> absolutely. >> that needed to be protected. ambassador susan rice met with her strongest critics on capitol hill today to answer questions about benghazi and the verdict was decidedly negative from her adversaries. they said the meeting left them, here is the word, troubled. let's watch. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers...
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he was digging for jewels over the cia. >> reporter: it's always been personal. i tell you, it feels like it's personal with mccain. i don't know if it was ever personal before with the president. now it actually feels like it might be personal with the president now, too. it's just -- it's just one of those, just like kennedy and nixon. one of those rivalries. >> i understand. we can figure these things out. thanks, chuck. chuck todd at the white house. >>> now joining us is u.s. congressman james clyburn from south carolina, member of the house leadership. let's talk about the real politics of equity, fairness, real democratic values, congressman. you're in the leadership. you're going to make the call. does the president have to win -- i think he has to -- does he have to win on making sure the wealthy of this country get back to paying what they paid under clinton? >> absolutely. he's just absolutely got to win that. and i think he will win that. but let me say, chris, thank you so much for having me. may i say something about susan rice? >> sure. >> i have a
he was digging for jewels over the cia. >> reporter: it's always been personal. i tell you, it feels like it's personal with mccain. i don't know if it was ever personal before with the president. now it actually feels like it might be personal with the president now, too. it's just -- it's just one of those, just like kennedy and nixon. one of those rivalries. >> i understand. we can figure these things out. thanks, chuck. chuck todd at the white house. >>> now joining us...